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Empathy is the bridge that opens up to the other side
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from a European Perspective
Información e Interpretación
desde una perspectiva Europea
EUROPE-USA
A TRANS-ATLANTIC PARTNERSHIP
UNA COLABORACIÓN TRANSATLÁNTICA
EMPATHY RESPECT DIGNITY
EMPATÍA RESPETO DIGNIDAD
Harald Dahle-Sladek
Founder and Editor-in-chief
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歐洲分析與解釋
אמפתיה כבוד כבוד
ניתוח, מידע עם פרספקטיבה אירופית
تجزیه و تحلیل ، اطلاعات از یک چشم انداز اروپایی
АНАЛИЗ ИНФОРМАЦИИ С ПЕРСПЕКТИВЫ
ИЗ ЕВРОПЫ
דיאלוג עכשיו ДИАЛОГСЕЙЧАС
DIALOGUENOW
Institute for Empathetic Dialogue formation
and Conflict Resolution, Oslo Norway.
Instituto para la formación del Diálogo Empático y Resolución de Conflictos, Oslo Noruega
عزت احترام به همدلی یکپارچه سازی
The Foreign Ministry Tehran
Creating dialogue and common ground
with the Islamic republic of Iran 1998-2022.
ایجاد گفت و گو و زمینه مشترک با ایران 1998-2022
Updates from
Washington, D.C.
Denmark
Danske Bank Pleads Guilty to Fraud on U.S. Banks in a Multi-Billion Dollar Scheme to Access the U.S. Financial System.
Largest Bank in Denmark Agrees to Forfeit $2 Billion.
Danske Bank A/S (Danske Bank), a global financial institution headquartered in Denmark, pleaded guilty today and agreed to forfeit $2 billion to resolve the United States’ investigation into Danske Bank’s fraud on U.S. banks.
According to court documents, Danske Bank defrauded U.S. banks regarding Danske Bank Estonia’s customers and anti-money laundering controls to facilitate access to the U.S. financial system for Danske Bank Estonia’s high-risk customers, who resided outside of Estonia – including in Russia. The Justice Department will credit nearly $850 million in payments that Danske Bank makes to resolve related parallel investigations by other domestic and foreign authorities. Continues further down.
Switzerland
Glencore International AG
Entered Guilty Pleas to Foreign Bribery and Market Manipulation Schemes. Swiss-Based Firm Agrees to Pay Over $1.1 Billion
Glencore International A.G. (Glencore) and Glencore Ltd., both part of a multi-national commodity trading and mining firm headquartered in Switzerland, each pleaded guilty today and agreed to pay over $1.1 billion to resolve the government’s investigations into violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA) and a commodity price manipulation scheme.
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FROM DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
Assistant Attorney General Kenneth A. Polite, Jr. Delivers Closing Remarks at the 20th International Anti-Corruption Conference.
We have gathered this week to proclaim our shared commitment to combating corruption across our globe. Indeed, I have shared in that commitment throughout my entire career, whether as a federal prosecutor in New York, as the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Louisiana in my hometown of New Orleans, and currently as the Assistant Attorney General in charge of the Department of Justice’s Criminal Division.
But you see, I have lived in several cities, and am part of many communities where people believe that corruption is a fact of life. Where some claim that corruption is an inescapable part of their daily lives. That corruption is just something they have to accept, and that it will never change. They have become insensitive to injustice.
I fundamentally reject that notion. The Department of Justice rejects that notion. And I know everyone in this room rejects that notion.
I am honored to be speaking to you all on International Anti-Corruption Day. Today, we seek to highlight the crucial link between anti-corruption and peace, security, and development. Corruption’s corrosive effects are global, with our communities, our people, often bearing the brunt of those effects. Corruption threatens our collective security by weakening democratic processes and empowering corrupt government officials. It stifles sustainable development by diverting funds meant to improve everyday life for folks and harming honest people that are just trying to play by the rules.
The fight against corruption – at home and abroad – is a top priority for the Biden Administration. As the National Security Advisor noted in opening this conference, the White House announced that combating corruption is a core national security interest and released the first-ever “United States Strategy on Countering Corruption.”
The Department of Justice’s efforts to combat global corruption are constantly focused on how we can have the greatest deterrent effect. That is why we have a dedicated group of prosecutors – our Public Integrity Section, along with prosecutors in many of our U.S. Attorney's Offices – focused on fighting official corruption throughout the United States.
But we have also created specialized groups of prosecutors focused on international corruption that has a nexus to the United States – either because the corrupt schemes originated here, or because those schemes made use of the U.S. financial system, or because kleptocrats have hidden their stolen funds here. A cornerstone of the department’s international anti-corruption efforts are international partnerships without which we could not effectively take on corruption at home and abroad. To our friends and counterparts, represented by so many of the countries present today, many of whom I have had a chance to meet with this week, I say thank you, For your hard work, your dedication, and your cooperation, especially with our Office of International Affairs.
In recent years, for instance, we have coordinated our investigations and prosecutions to fight corruption with – to mention only a few – our colleagues in the United Kingdom, Brazil, Malaysia, Switzerland, Ecuador, France, the Netherlands, Singapore, and South Africa.
This international cooperation has been critical to the work of our Criminal Fraud Section’s Foreign Corrupt Practices Act – or FCPA – unit, and the Kleptocracy Initiative launched by our Money Laundering and Asset Recovery Section. And, in recent months, this cooperation also has been essential to the success of our new Task Force KleptoCapture, focused on Russian illicit finance.
Just last week, we announced a $315 million criminal resolution with ABB Ltd. ABB bribed a high-ranking official at South Africa’s state-owned energy company to corruptly obtain confidential information and win lucrative contracts.
This was the department’s first coordinated resolution with authorities in South Africa. In addition, our South African partners have brought corruption charges against the government official, as well as their own corporate case against the company. To those who say that corruption is inescapable, our South African partners reject that notion.
As this case demonstrates, the department is committed to growing our relationships with foreign governments to expand our fight against corruption into new industries and new jurisdictions, including those whose enforcement regimes and anti-corruption laws are just emerging. Building these partnerships also creates more seamless and efficient cooperation in our efforts to combat criminality.
Here in the U.S., just over the past year, we have brought charges against, among others:
Two former senior officials in Ecuador and Bolivia for alleged bribery-related money laundering;
Three businessmen, relating to an alleged bribery and money laundering scheme involving a state-insurance company in Ecuador;
Two former Venezuelan prosecutors for allegedly agreeing to receive $1 million in bribes to not prosecute a corrupt contractor; and
Two former coal company executives relating to an alleged bribery scheme in Egypt.
To those who claim that corruption is inevitable, our partners reject that notion.
No less striking has been our work in fighting kleptocracy. In the 11 years since it was created, the Money Laundering and Asset Recovery Section’s Kleptocracy Initiative has repatriated more than $3.4 billion relating to foreign official corruption and associated money laundering affecting the U.S. financial system.
Just a few weeks ago, we announced the repatriation of over $20 million in assets to Nigeria. These assets were stolen by the former Nigerian dictator and his co-conspirators. This brings the total forfeited and returned by the United States in this case to over $330 million. These assets were recovered after the United States filed a civil forfeiture complaint for more than $625 million traceable to money laundering through the United States involving the proceeds of the former dictator’s corruption. Under an agreement between Nigeria, the United States, and the Bailiwick of Jersey, the returned funds will help finance critical infrastructure projects including bridges, highways, and roads, investments that will directly benefit citizens across Nigeria. You say that corruption is unavoidable? Well, my Nigerian sisters and brothers reject it.
But we have not done this alone. In the 1MDB scandal, for instance, billions of dollars were stolen from a Malaysian sovereign wealth fund that was ostensibly created to promote the country’s economic development. It took a global coalition – including work by Malaysia, Singapore, Switzerland, France, the United Kingdom, and many others – to return, and assist in returning, over $1.2 billion to the people of Malaysia. And our work continues. Over and again, our international partners reject corruption as an accepted way of life.
And the strength of those international relationships has been tested like never before, in responding to Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine. Part of our international response has to been to shine the spotlight on the corruption and illicit finance of the oligarchs and the enablers associated with the Russian regime. The G7 Plus Russian Elites, Proxies and Oligarchs Task Force – known as REPO – has frozen or seized tens of billions of sanctioned assets in financial accounts, luxury yachts, and real estate controlled by sanctioned oligarchs, and immobilized hundreds of billions more in Russian Central Bank assets.
And within the United States, Attorney General Garland announced the formation of Task Force KleptoCapture in March.
The Task Force is aggressively pursuing its mission. It has already seized several assets of sanctioned oligarchs and has brought charges against two companies and multiple individuals for the illegal sale and export of military, dual-use technologies to Russia. These successes have required coordination across not just the U.S. Government, but with foreign partners dedicated to combating corruption.
The Department of Justice is also committed to working with our international partners to build international capacity to fight corruption. Our overseas prosecutorial development section – OPDAT – with support from Secretary Blinkin and the State Department’s INL and CT bureaus, posts DOJ prosecutors at our embassies overseas to partner with foreign counterparts to provide case-based advice and mentoring on complex corruption cases. ICITAP — our law enforcement development section — likewise places advisors in partner countries to build the capacity of law enforcement institutions and other government entities to investigate misconduct and corruption.
As a department, we will continue to work tirelessly with our international partners to investigate and prosecute corruption and strengthen the relationships that make those efforts possible. And let me, in this regard, also note – and lift up – the essential work of civil society, investigative journalists, and independent media – which, by their courageous work, so often provide the essential leads for our investigations and subsequent prosecutions.
One of the lessons the successes of our anti-corruption efforts have revealed is that law enforcement is exponentially more effective when we have folks like the people in this room standing alongside us. Fighting corruption will never be an easy road. That’s why we need good people you to stand up and say: enough.
If you’re in this room tonight, or watching virtually, then you are a part of this fight. Your service, your desire to improve the world now and for future generation; your desire to make the world around you even a little more fair, a little more just, is what makes our efforts against corruption in all its forms possible. We must stand together, shoulder to shoulder, and reject the notion, the corrupting idea, that corruption is inevitable.
Leave here, strengthened by the relationships you have built at this conference and empowered by the spirit of this blessed International Anti-Corruption day. Let us proclaim, in one unified voice, from every township, community, city, and nation across this globe, that we will combat and reject corruption, in all its forms. That, my brothers and sisters, is our calling today, and every day. God bless you all.
Secretary of Defense, Lloyd J. Austin III
National Defense Strategy
President Biden has stated that we are living in a “decisive decade,” one stamped by dramatic changes in geopolitics, technology, economics, and our environment. The defense strategy that the United States pursues will set the Department’s course for decades to come. The Department of Defense owes it to our All-Volunteer Force and the American people to provide a clear picture of the challenges we expect to face in the crucial years ahead—and we owe them a clear and rigorous strategy for advancing our defense and security goals.
The 2022 National Defense Strategy (NDS) details the Department’s path forward into that decisive decade—from helping to protect the American people, to promoting global security, to seizing new strategic opportunities, and to realizing and defending our democratic values.
We live in turbulent times. Yet, I am confident that the Department, along with our counterparts throughout the U.S. Government and our Allies and partners around the world, is well positioned to meet the challenges of this decisive decade.
~ Secretary of Defense, Lloyd J. Austin III
IRAN-US RELATIONS
A Petrofilm Europe Exclusive
Seal of the Foreign Ministry Tehran
From the Foreign Ministry Tehran
Hossein Adeli PhD
Deputy Foreign Minister for Economic Affairs
از وزارت امور خارجه تهران
دکتری حسین عادلی
معاون وزیر امور خارجه در امور اقتصادی ایران
Seal of the Central Bank
The Central Bank Governor
Ambassador to England, Canada, and Japan
Secretary General of the Gas Exporting Countries Forum
Founder Ravand Institute for Economic and International Studies
THE COMPLETE AND UNABRIDGED INTERVIEW
مصاحبه کامل و خلاصه نشده
Petrofilm Europe arrives for the meeting with Hossein Adeli in the Foreign Ministry Tehran.
Working card for the Editor-in-chief
THE SUCCESS OF
THE UNITED STATES
IN AFGHANISTAN
ALSO COMES AS THE ACTIVE
SUPPORT FROM IRAN
Revolutionary icon Khomeini, Leader Khamenei
A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY
For Washington to better its relations with Tehran
Went out of the Window!
CLICK PICTURE PLAY VIDEO
INTERVIEWED APRIL 2002 IN THE FOREIGN MINISTRY
Dr. Adeli: "Great disappointment!"
INTRODUCTION
The interview was held in Dr. Hossein Adeli's office in the Foreign Ministry in Tehran. It was the first of two meetings that Harald Dahle-Sladek had with Dr. Adeli. The first took place on May 6, 2002 and the second meeting was held in May 2003 in the Foreign Ministry. May 2003 was also the month when Norway met Iran on Minister level in the Headquarter of the National Iranian Oil Company NIOC; the last such meeting between the two sides before the Statoil corruption case broke, and made it impossible for the medium-sized Norwegian oil company Statoil to continue its operations in Iran.
MOHAMMAD HOSSEIN ADELI PhD
At the end of his term in 1999, Adeli was nominated as Deputy Foreign Minister for Economic Affairs and the Chairman of the Coordinating Council for Foreign Economic Relations until 2004. During these years, Adeli initiated two special committees for Reconstruction of Afghanistan and Reconstruction of Iraq through a series of multilateral arrangements, and filled the role of Secretary General for both committees.
Obama, Karzai 'reaffirm' Afghan-led peace process with Taliban: White House
USA: President Obama Afghanistan: President Karzai
HOW THE DIALOG INTERVIEWS STARTED
Harald Dahle worked six years in Iran from January 1998 till May 2003, first in the capacity of documenting and creating dialog in the PC2000 Seismic Survey between Iran, Norway and P.R.China, and later creating dialog in Tehran. He has twenty four years study on Iran and parts of his works are donated to the Nobel Institute Library in Oslo.
Ambassador Noghrehkar Shirazi - Ambassador to Austria, two terms (1992-2000) and to Norway, one term (2000-2004) took the initiative to open up the high-level dialog talks for Harald Dahle in the Islamic republic of Iran to help him complete his Interview project VISION OF IRAN - Creating Dialog and Common Ground with the Islamic Republic. Harald Dahle: -I am of the opinion that sitting down with the people of Iran and creating dialog is a far better thing to do than go to war. Empathy, respect and dignity is what we need, and kindness is the bridge that leads to the heart of the other side.
Photo: The Iranian Embassy Oslo. From left Harald Dahle. His Excellency Ambassador to France Ali Ahani and His Excellency Ambassador to Norway Noghrekar Shirazi, who had once been the Governor of Shiraz. Photo by Deputy Head of Mission Mr. Rezvani.
IRANS PEACE INITATIVE REJECTED
It soon became evident that the rejection of the United States to appreciate what Iran had contributed with to the United States engagement in Afghanistan did not sit well with the leaders of the Islamic Republic. Tehran's generous intent would have been a Golden opportunity for Washington to better its relations with Tehran, but in wain! It seemed that the Americans was not yet ready to hand their Iranian contributors a firm and lasting handshake.His Excellency Dr. Hossein Adeli had been the Central Bank Governor, Ambassador to England, Canada and Japan.
Ambassador Adeli has received Japan's highest order the Order of the Rising Sun by Japans Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, the highest Order given to any Iranian National for his important role in the Iran–Japan Relation.
Japanese Emperor Order awarded to Iranian diplomat
Japanese Emperor Order of 'Rising Sun, Golden and Silver Star' was awarded by Japanese Prime Minister to Iranian diplomat Mohammad Hossein Adeli.
In a ceremony in the Japanese Emperor palace in Tokyo on Friday May 9, 2014, in the presence of Japanese statesmen and four other foreign diplomats who received the award, the Order of 'Rising Sun, Golden and Silver Star' was awarded to Mohammad Hossein Adeli by Japan's Prime Minister Shinzo Abe. Japanese Emperor, in a speech, felicitated the recipients of the award for their accomplishments and wished success and health for them and appreciated the recipients of the Order for their efforts in direction of improving relations and understanding of their respective country with Japan. Already, Shinzo Abe in a letter had invited Adeli to attend the ceremony to receive Japanese Emperor Order.
Grand Cordon of the Order of the Rising Sun
Japan's Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida also in a letter had felicitated the occasion to Adeli on April 29, 2014. In a statement by Japan's Emperor Court, it was said that Dr. Adeli, during his tenure as ambassador in Japan in late 1980's, made a big effort to develop bilateral relations. When he was governor of Iran's Central Bank, Adeli wrote a book on Japan development after World War II and delivered speeches about Japan growth pattern. He was among organizers of Iran-Japan Friendship Society and still is head of the society.
After Tsunami in Japan, Adeli, in an article expressed sympathy with Japanese people and invited Iranians to express sympathy with Japanese nation. The Order of ' Rising Sun, Golden and Silver Star' is the highest Japanese Emperor Order awarded to an Iranian official. In 2002, Adeli received High Order of Swiss Kranz Montana Economic Forum, which was awarded by the Prince of Monaco.
Dr. Adeli was interviewed by Harald Dahle in the Foreign Department May 6, 2002. Dr. Adeli was visibly annoyed during the Iran-US part of the interview.
THE IRAN-US RELATIONS
Dahle: -Tehran has sent an invitation to Washington for a meeting and better the relations between the two sides. I understand that the United States has rejected this initiative. How do you view the current relations with Washington after this disappointment?
Adeli: -Well, actually our relations with the West, in general has improved a lot during the last, may be four, five years.
Dahle: -Yes.
Adeli: -Specially with the policies that have been followed by President Khatami, Dialogue among Civilization, the Rule of Law, the Principles of Civil Society, the elimination of tension between Iran or other countries, or elimination of misunderstanding. All of these policies have been seriously followed by Iran in its foreign policy and has contributed to the relations with all countries of the world except the United States. And with the West in general we have been able also to exchange delegations on the level of Foreign Minister and head of Governments.
US MILITARY SUCCESS
US Air Mobility Command
Adeli - But with the United States, it is unfortunately to see, that even developments in Afghanistan, which owes a lot to understanding and effective assistance from Iran, has not, I believe been able to penetrate into the hearts or the minds of decision makers in the United States.
Dahle: -Without the help from Iran in Afghanistan, you say that the United States would not have been where they are now?
Adeli: -I think that there is no doubt, even in the American eyes, that what the situation that we see now in Afghanistan owes a lot to Iranian assistance, Iranian understanding. The military success of the United States owes a lot to understanding and appreci-ation from Iran. And also, the political process in Afghanistan owes the same thing. And may be that was a very unique opportunity for the United States to reciprocate these kinds of understanding, and to seize and stop the kind of policies that are pursued by them, in the past, may be, couple of decades. But apparently there is not still a strong sign from that side!
Dahle: -Iran has friendly relations with many countries in the world, so why not also with the United States?
Adeli: -Off course, the general policy of Iran is to have friendly relations with every country in the world including the United States, provided that this kind of relationship would be based on an equal footing, on a mutually satisfactory, mutually beneficial sort of relationship. So, this is why I think that, as the policies of the United States, which are normally a unilateral policy, we hope that one time they would join the other countries of the West, the other developing countries, join that kind of understanding of Iran. That the developments in the region and developments in Iran would open their eyes, and that they would adopt a new policy toward our country!
THE IRAN-IRAQ RELATION
President Khamenei visits an Iran-Iraq war battle field 1988
Dahle: Dr. Adeli can you please outline Iran’s policy on Iraq for our readers.
Adeli: Yes, we believe in the policy of President Khatami of Dialogue among Civilization and Coalition for Peace, so these are the policies that we are following. So, if we are against that kind of attack on Iraq is not because we lose opportunity or, I mean we may have our own differences with Iraq, but this is out of a principal position that differences should be settled in an amicable way. Or in a non-hostile way, or a non-armed conflict.
THE TALIBAN AND 9-11
Dahle: So that Iran prioritize to follow the United Nations to solve conflicts. What about the Taliban attack on nine-eleven? Should that have been solved in the UN as well?
Adeli: That attack on the United States is not like the hostility that erupted between Taliban and the United States, these are two different cases. In Taliban case, where Americans were hit directly, America could justify for the world to fire back. But in terms of other kind of differences we have created the United Nations in order to settle differences in other ways; to take a gun and start shooting is a bad idea.
We don’t say that the differences that exist between the United States and the international behavior of Iraq is justified, we don’t say that. May be there is lots of wrong behavior on the part of Iraq. However, the way to deal with it is not to take the gun and shoot, because if that would become and exemplary way and be followed by the others, then there is lots of differences between many countries in the world. And one cannot say that whoever is stronger should take the gun and shoot! Therefore, we are having strong reservations against these kinds of actions, and we don’t want to see them happen.
GOVERNMENT OF THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN
THE CENTRAL BANK IRAN
The Central Bank of Iran, also known as Bank Markazi, officially the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran is the central bank of Iran. Established under the Iranian Banking and Monetary Act in 1960, it serves as the banker to the Iranian government and has the exclusive right of issuing banknote and coinage.
THE CENTRAL BANK GOVERNOR
Dahle: -Your Excellency, you were the Central Bank Governor from ninety eighty-nine till ninety ninety-four. I anticipate that it was a time of great importance taking into consideration the situation after the war. Looking back, could you please give your thoughts on this period, thank you.
The Central Bank Headquarter Tehran
Adeli: -Well, off course I served under President Rafsanjani as the Central Bank Governor and off course as my President, now and then on different occasions like Nowruz or the New Year I go and see him. And I would facilitate him on the different occasions and so from time to time I go and see him as I go and see the other very high-level dignitaries with whom I had relationship before.
President Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani
Dahle: -When Khomeini came to power on February first nineteen seventy-nine a new chapter started for Iran. How do you view that time in retrospect? Could you please give your thoughts on this, thank you.
Adeli: -Frankly speaking, in my personal opinion, what is taking place is the continuation of an evolutionary process which has really started from beginning of revolution. I mean, nobody can deny that what is seen today can not be analyzed in isolation. What started twenty-three years ago? We started free elections, and we have been able to conduct twenty-two free elections. And the people got used to these kinds of elections. Off course now our elections, our general elections are more participated dynamically.
Dahle: -Yes.
Adeli: -But if we hadn’t had the previous elections we would not have been able to these lively, dynamic elections. Because to participate in the general election is a culture, it’s not the kind of mechanical order coming from Government to the other, therefore we started the principles and elements of free society twenty-three years ago.
Dahle: -Dr. Adeli, when you sat as the Central Bank Governor did you then make yourself some thoughts, a vision how you would like the economy to go?
Adeli: -Well actually, not only did we have our own vision, but we also expressed it repeatedly on television and in the media. At that time, we created a program for the reforming of the economy, and we were informing the people on the various measures that we were creating. We wanted to create an economy that was competitive and in which the people ore the private sector would be the dominant sector of the economy and would be able to compete and seize the opportunity in a competitive environment. Therefore, we started in our own financial sector.
Dahle: -In what area did you first start to refurbish the economy, Dr. Adeli?
Adeli: -We applied the reform for the reducing of the multiplicity of the exchange rate, for unifying the exchange frate. We had lots of rates and wanted to unify them. We had a very administered, monetary policy. We took measures to liberalizing the monetary policy so that monetary policy would be determined by the rates and by the appropriate measures of monetary policy, instead of bureaucratic and administrative decisions. We revived the Stock Exchange as a capital market in order to assist the money market.
At that time, we did not have an active money market, it was a dead Stock Exchange created in Iran thirty years ago. It was inactive and we activated it after the war with the very rules of the market. We also applied the creation of private sector financial institutions. At that time, off course, we were not successful in getting the legislation approved for establishing the private banks, but we were able and successful non-bank financial institutions by the private sector.
Dahle: -Such as the Bonyad?
Adeli: -No, no, no! Financial institutions which could do most of the bank transactions, but they are limited in being full-fledged commercial bank; they were short of just one, two transactions. They were banks – I mean non-bank financial institutions are defined as banks without the permission to do one or two banking transactions, so you don’t call them banks, but they are full-fledged commercial banks.
Dahle: -They lack one or two banking transactions but are still full-fledged banks, I understand, thank you for clearing this up.
Adeli: -We also introduced new instruments such as the bonds, which we introduced un an Islamic way. And for the first time we introduced the notion of having real interest rate. We introduced the notion of independent Central Bank for which I really fought for, and I was relatively successful; that was for the first time in the Islamic economic literature that a notion of an independent Central Bank was introduced.
Therefore, we created an environment where the prices are determined by the market forces not by the administrative decisions. We wanted an environment where subsidies are targeted and are conveyed and given to the consumers in a very transparent way rather than in an indirect way; an environment were trade would be liberalized to the extent that would create a competitive environment and would not damage the industrial power or capability of the country.
To have an active and dynamic international relationship with the other capital markets, with the other money markets, with the other countries. Therefore, the economy we were thinking of and we envisioned at that time would be dynamic, emerging and developing, one which would have the participation of the people themselves, and to have them as the dominant power of the economy.
Dahle: -So, alongside the political revolution you have had an economic revolution?
Adeli: -Well I think that was a prerequisite that was applied and took place to certain extent; off course, in some policies we were not hundred percent successful, but in general and in average we were successful. After the war we started the application of economic reforms, very bold and ambitious economic reforms. I must say, that were targeting the free economy, or open economy, or whatever you want to call it. So, we started revising the subsidies, stimulating the economy, deregulating, targeting downsizing of the Government, targeting the zero-deficit budget and unification of the exchange rate.
All of these reforms started just after the war. These sorts of economic dynamics were partly successful and partly failure, but all of them contributed to the creation of environment in which the people could start thinking of other needs, of other requirements which are political requirements, which are of a higher nature, of free expressions in the papers, in the media and the other things.
This is why I can see that what has been taken place in Iran is not a new thing. It is the continuation of an evolutionary process. You may see some new phenomena – but these new phenomena are not an isolated phenomena just created from scratch today, because this is a social process, we are talking about a social process which has its roots in the developments that took place in the earlier decades. And this is why the stage in which we are now is a stage which we are proud of.
Developments that have been taking place the past six years after the Government of President Khatami, these are quit dramatic evolutionary phenomena which have boosted our country and that we are very much proud of.
Dahle: -Dramatic indeed!
Adeli: -From a social point of view one cannot say that this is separated from what took place before ore even what took place before that. I mean before President Khatami was President Rafsanjani, before President Rafsanjani we were not in a very good situation because we were fighting a war. But, even when we were at war we had quite a different way of participating in the public debate and in decision making than we used to have it before revolution. So, this is how I see all of these processes of social, political, economic, and evolutionary changes that are taking place, and I hope that these would continue to take place in the future because we are committed to this way and because the nature of this reform is reversable. And in the past twenty-three years we have seen that this has taken – in spite of ups and downs which you would see in the curves in the money market every day or at the stock exchange – we have had a rising curve, and an upward curve.
Dahle: Dr. Adeli what will you say to foreign investors who are thinking of coming her and investing?
Adeli: -We have one general message to all foreign investors that we have lots of opportunities in Iran in various sectors; in telecom sector, in automobile sector in auto sectors, in mining sector and withing IT. There are lots of sectors where we would welcome foreign investors, even in the very high-tech services. Therefor the opportunities are here, and the economy has been successfully sustaining twelve years of consecutive growth, and this is very important! And this has been done and has been achieved despite oil price volatility in the past decade. We have had two sharp volatilities, one in ninety-three, the other in ninety-seven, ninety-eight where the oil prices fell down.
Despite of this, Iran was successfully sustaining the growth without any interruption in the past twelve years. The economy is quite dynamic and is generating lots of opportunities, especially with the developments that are taking place in the region, this is number one. Number two, in th